Has anyone been around Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda? Also, is Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda saying that he is Paramahamsa Yogananda? I don't know much about Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda , but I am a devotee of Paramahamsa Yogananda.

I was just wondering...
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Tierney Williams
Seattle
  • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

    Sun, August 6, 2006 - 11:28 AM
    Hi....Well, ...Paramahamsa Sri Nithyananda is a young (28-29) swami who traveled all over India for a very long year or so...He has studied with many enlightened tearchers and he himself became enlightened in southern India. He is an amazing healer and an insightful speaker his darshans are amazing....I went to a darshan in L.A. meditation/talk...if you have a chance to see him...go. He has an ashram in L.A. and many through out India. He has many classes in meditation and healing.

    He has an incredible smile, the love and light flows freely!....Luvs, krishna
    • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

      Sun, August 6, 2006 - 2:25 PM
      Thank you for your reponse. I must say he has a beautiful presence and I am thinking about going to see him in August. There is something about him that I feel that I need to be in his presence and experience him. To be honest, I can feel his presence when I think of him, I feel him very strongly..He has my attention, I will check him out.

      Peace and love

      Tierney
      • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

        Sun, August 6, 2006 - 9:24 PM
        Hello, I've been with Nithyananda for almost two years now. Although he's never said that "he" is Yogananda, I know of one Yogananda devotee, to whom Yogananda appeared in a dream and instructed to see Nithyananda.

        I was present at one satsang where a Yogananda devotee who had met Swamiji earlier in the day at Yogananda's mahasamadhi spoke about one incident in his life where he had experienced a state of intense bliss and freedom from bodily consciousness, and how it later disappeared, leaving behind pain. Swamiji said to him that he would enable him to reconnect with that consciousness; towards the end, we witnessed him energetically triggering the same satori once again in the devotee. It was quite amazing to witness.
        • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

          Mon, August 7, 2006 - 8:07 AM
          That is amazing, thank you for sharing. I can totally relate to these stories. I feel Yogananda as if he is instructing me to go see Nithyananda, I look into Yogananda eyes (picture) and I feel such love from him and it is like he is smiling at me and honoring this connection that I am experience with Nithyananda and at the same time, I feel these beings are so deeply connected, if not the same.

          I think to myself is Yogananda instructing me to go and see Nithyananda and the answer is yes, because there is such a energy within this experience At night time, I find that I can not see, I am thinking about Nithyananda, I think of him and it is the same for Yogananda, but for some reason the energy is the same for me, I can't explain it, except to say, it is all the same and it is a beautiful energy and I feel this energy deeper within.

          Blessing
          Tierney
          • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

            Thu, August 10, 2006 - 8:43 AM
            Yes, go see Swamiji listen to your heart felt instructions. My Master Osho says that to be with another Master you will see your Master thru him...

            He is in LA at Agape on Sept.1...imbibe!
            • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

              Thu, August 10, 2006 - 9:16 AM
              Prior to the Agape event, which will only be a discourse, the last ever NSP meditation program conducted by Nithyananda will be on the 26th of August, followed by the advanced Nithya Spiritual Healers' initiation on the 29th - www.dhyanapeetam.org/ananda.asp

              To be a Healer is to have an especially intimate connection with Parashakti, existential energy, and to have profound experiences of effortless samadhi.

              • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

                Tue, August 15, 2006 - 4:56 PM
                Antarananda
                do you know if there is a prerequisit to the NSP program? It sounds like there may be.

                I am unfamiliar with the teacher or the program but it does look intriguing.
                • Re: an AMAZING young Master!

                  Tue, August 15, 2006 - 9:00 PM
                  Hi Marcia,

                  Yes, there is a prerequisite, called the Life Bliss Program. It is a 2 day program conducted by Nithyananda's teachers, for cleansing and energizing the chakras. It prepares one for the deeper 7 bodies meditations that Swami guides you through.

                  There is one LBP coming up this weekend at LA; its likely to be held again closer to the NSP date in september as well. Please call 626-205-3286 or email LA.Ashram@gmail.com for more info.

                  www.dhyanapeetam.org/OtherUSADates.asp

                  Love,

                  Antarananda.
  • hi, Tierney --

    since Sri Nityananda (like Swami Vishwananda and other new young saints in the world today) got some kind of darshan experience from Mahavatara Babaji (Yogananda's sadguru), I'd say he's at least deeply related to Yogananda.

    my inside guess is that the being we all know and love as Yogananda split his soul into several pieces, and in this lifetime many young saints who seem to be carrying his or similar energy are helping to lift the souls of the planet today.

    Alx
    • You can listen to Swami Vishwananda's latest radio interview on

      www.thegatewaytoeternity.org

      Blessings,
      Raj
      • it is extremely, extremely rare that a saint of the height of Paramahansa Yogananda would return to earth (ever).

        My understanding was that he was a fully God-realised soul. Even among that distinction there are levels.

        I believe that if one is very slightly lower, one can actually have attained God-realisation, but it is somehow not complete.

        My understanding is that, for example, Swami Vivekananda was one of those souls, and he has reincarnated.

        Hopefully, he will soon give up playing the human game and start his manifestation of divinity.


        • (computer problem whole post did not go through)

          Swami Vivekananda once said, "in East Bengal, the Avatars grow like mushrooms."

          Generally, I would be very cautious about accepting a Guru as a fully illumined soul. My understand is that, at any time, there are only perhaps 10 of these souls on earth and only perhaps two or three teaching publicly.

          There can be perhaps 1000 or more souls on a very very advanced level and some of them might also teach...souls like Swami Turiyananda in the Sri Ramakrishna mission.

          And there can be pure and noble and spiritual souls on a lesser level of development who can also teach. But as far as perfected Masters are concerned, my understanding that only a handful will be teaching at any one time.

          May the Truth Win
          May the Demons Flee

          Namaste





  • Unsu...
     
    Hi, I am a Kriyaban and have been practicing Kriya meditation, initiated by the SRF monks over 20 years ago. I have been practicing the most advanced Kriya technique as taught to me personally by Yogananda's most advanced disciple in the U.S. It's way beyond what the SRF teaches. Yogananda stated that you only need one true guru, and since you have him, there is no need to seek elsewhere. Just keep practicing Kriya and all you need will be given to you. Don't dilute your teaching with other teachings. You will become confused and disinterested. Kriya is the high road to God. All other forms of meditation are not the same. Peace be with you.
    • anybody knows the answer whithout using the ego analises ??? go and check it ... but i know they are very conected somehow.
      babaji wouldn´t give a title of paramahansa to any ardinary soul ...
      jai nithyananda jai yogananda, jai paramahansa ..
      • well, everyone is free to worship on the path they choose.

        As Christ said, we know the anti-Christs by their works.

        Evil people can not but help doing evil things. Contrarily, saintly people can not help but doing noble and divine things.

        So, if this person is a truly divine soul, it will show. If he is a charlatan, no doubt all kinds of tax evasion and other shenanigans will show up.

        As far as Babaji anointing him with a title, my understanding is that Babaji is a private Guru to a handful of souls and has never publicly anointed anyone.

        There was someone going by the name of Babaji and claiming to be Babaji, but my understanding that that was also a controversial figure.

        From Autobiography of a Yogi, we have heard that Babaji has been a guiding presence for humanity for thousands of years, always staying out of the public light. Why would he now, after centuries working "behind the scenes" suddenly show a public face?

        I am sorry, but my personal impression is that the person claiming to be Babaji is a false teacher. As far as the soul you mentioned being Sri Yogananda, I do not get any higher consciousness from his aura, not the divine Love that I always feel from Yogananda. So, no, I don't think he is and I would suspect that he is indeed a false teacher.

        If folks are concerned about how to tell whether a teacher is false or valid, one can always follow the path of one of the great masters...like Krishna, Buddha or Christ. Just because their body is not on earth, has nothing to do with their ability to intercede in our lives. Many seekers have attained to realization by following a "standard" path without having a living Guru. So, if you are concerned, it is not necessary to take a chance. Just pray and meditate daily and follow the standard dictates of the path, as laid down by one of the great Masters like Krishna, Buddha or Christ. Your spirituality will develop just fine.


        • Intuition is something that we have and that´s all. The babaji shown and explain in the swami nithyanada biografy is the same as the one that yogananda met. so i am intuitive convinced that, paramahanasa nithyananda is one of the great soul´s that ever have past in this planet, just as paramahansa yoganada, krishna, budha, and many other great souls that had became one with the father, and when the wave becomes the sea, they are just the same, as paramahansa yogananda said, THERE IS NO DIFERENCE IN ANY REALISED MASTER, cause they are one with god. so intuitively i think they are the same, even if diferente they have become ONE. that´s my humble opinion. sorry about my english cause i´m brasilian and don´t know how to use correctly the english words.
          Peace to all
          • ok, sir, but you don't address some of the points that I mentioned.

            Babaji has never anointed anyone publicly. So, why now?

            Fully realized spiritual masters rarely, if ever, re-incarnate. So, what is the difference here? Why would Yogananda re-incarnate?

            And what about the general dangers of following a false teacher? What is the proper wisdom for that?

            How does one determine who is a false teacher and who is not?

            As Swami Vivekananda said, "In East Bengal, the avatars grow like mushrooms"

            My insight has been sanctioned by a nationally recognized Zen Buddhist monk. On that basis, I am giving everyone here the strongest warning possible...that these two folks are false teachers and people should steer clear of them.

            (I will not continue the discussion)

            • All that i know is that I don´t know, I am not a enlighted one. So my insight has been sanctioned by no One.
              and i´m sry for make my unrecognized shortsight opinion available in this board discussion.
              stay whith my respect and admiration.

              (I will not continue my poor and ordinary opinion)

              PEACE :)
              • I am sorry

                I do not mean to be offensive to you.

                Real and truly realised Masters are quite rare. And charlatans are dangerous. I do not mean to offend you, I only want to protect you and others from being abused by someone.

                Again, I apologize for offending you.

                my best wishes for you....
                • hi, Jon,

                  of course your point about charlatans is well-taken -- there are a lot of frauds out there in the world. however, Yogananda was not the first nor certainly not the last great avatar to grace this planet and bring high divine information and blessings to the planet. I think people who are still following older forms of meditation and practices from saints who took samadhi more than 20 years ago need to be flexible and prepared for the fact that many, many high divine characters are incarnating in this world, and now. the world's condition -- misery -- is so awful now that many many many saints are needed to restore dharma and balance the planet's karma.

                  you wrote this, earlier:
                  "it is extremely, extremely rare that a saint of the height of Paramahansa Yogananda would return to earth (ever).
                  My understanding was that he was a fully God-realised soul."


                  and I really have to disagree with your statement that a 'saint like Yogananda would return to earth.' of COURSE he would return -- there are some avataras whose job it is is to KEEP coming back, again, and again, and again, and again, to help help help lift and liberate the souls of this planet.

                  more to the point -- Yogananda himself said quite clearly he WAS going to reincarnate. in his poem, "My India," which he recited as he took his jivan samadhi in the early '50s, he said quite clearly -- "I will again reincarnate, next lifetime, in India."

                  I don't know how much plainer a statement -- a gigantic head's up -- one would need to get the idea that maybe a great saint has no issue with again coming back to help.

                  it might be helpful to read the Devi Bhagavatam -- the purana about the Divine Mother, of whom Yogananda was a strong devotee -- there is a passage that talks about the Sapta Rishis, the great Seven Rishis who made this creation, and how no matter how many times this world (and its yugas) dissolve into the void and come back again, the Sapta Rishis are the only incarnate beings who REMAIN on the planet and keep coming, again and again, to bring the divine knowledge to help humanity evolve. yuga after yuga, the Sapta Rishis persist.

                  I think it's useful to consider Yogananda, Yukteshwar, Mahavatar Babaji and Lahiri Mahasaya in this vein. similarly, with Vivekananda and Sri Ramakrishna. these are HEAVY WEIGHT saints -- they are not casual experiencers of this planet who come to gain some enlightenment, spread some nice messages about universal love, sadhana and service, and then dissolve back into the Mother from which they came.

                  these are unbelievable high divine souls who keep coming back, again and again, to help this planet. Yogananda told people that Babaji's last incarnation was as Lord Krishna. who knows what other great historical figures Babaji had been before that!

                  Alx

                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    I don´t think Babaji was the same "soul" as Krishna, but Babaji and Krishna are both "the pure divine self" or Shiva incarnated in form, in that sense the divine source was fully manifested or "incarnated" in Krishna and Babaji, what those two have in common is that they are not form identified, that included the finer frequency form of the soul which is form too, the are god identified for they are fully god-realized, so when they say I, they are not talking about their little selves they operate through, but I as god.
                    There for when Babaji say my last incarnation was Krishna...well you get the point.

                    Sri Nithyananda might well be incarnation in the same degree of divine manifestation as Yogananda was, he seems quite charming and likeable. But the same soul ? I doubt that, it might well be, for Yogananda is a being of service and the work is not done.

                    The most important thing is that the consciusness of Yogananda is at work on a large scale today, mostly through people that are aligned with his teachings and I think dude Nithy is probably quite well aligned with these beauttiful teachings wether he is Yogananda or not. All those that are working in service under the guidance of Mahavatar Babaji are well aligned with the teachings, that originally came from him.

                    What interests me mostly is that how many great teachers and sharers with in-spiriting info seem to be coming to the surface, these times we are experiencing on our planet is the right time to share all sacred messages that have been kep hidden and secret for aeons and there surely are many divinley aligned beings at work, finding their place in co-creation of awakened planet, not all at all are of Indian or yogic lineages.

                    Omni Love

                    Aron
                    • hi, Aron --

                      Yogananda himself referred to Babaji as Bababji-Krishna, given that Babaji had been in fact Lord Krishna, in a concrete, not an abstract sense, during his last lifetime (last yuga). so, yes I would argue they're the same soul, in a different incarnation. the soul keeps moving, lifetime to lifetime, and keeps incarnating -- this is also true with divine souls, the avataras and rishis.

                      while it's true that the Silence, the Shiva energy, incarnates in all forms, still there are individuated souls that each carry a particular 'soul graph' over gajillions of lifetimes.

                      in the particular sense, then, according to Yogananda, Babaji was literally Krishna, as Yogananda had been Arjuna (one of the Pandava brothers) and received the Bhagavad Gita directly from his then master, Babaji-Krishna. this is why Yogananda's commentaries on the Gita are such profound and deep revelations -- he was, literally and particularly, THERE to receive it last yuga.

                      Alx
                      • God is one; we are separated souls because the sense of identification with the individual body, that means the EGO (the great obstruction as said by yogananda). So when a master reaches the final realization, they kill the ego and then who they are?
                        One with the god’s consciousness, as the wave when that falls in the sea? Who is the wave but the great ocean?
                        So there is only one god playing in many masters body’s, meaning that they are all the same, only dreams. And who is the dreamer? God
                        What does it matter who was this or who was that? They are only dreams of god, and god is the only real guru behind all realized masters and every sinner also.
                        There is no yogananda, there is no krishna, there is no budha, there is no nithyananda, but there is one god. So let’s play our god’s play with all god’s cause they are just the same. In addition, let us principally realize the only one god inside ourselves, and then we will know who we are, just becoming one with all.

                        Om - Tat - Sat

                        PEACE

                        PS: just wondering, maybe I am wrong
                        • "I shall chide you no more." His divine voice was grave, yet with
                          an undercurrent of laughter. "You and I shall smile together, so
                          long as our two forms appear different in the MAYA-dream of God.
                          Finally we shall merge as ONE in the Cosmic Beloved; our smiles
                          shall be His smile, our unified song of joy vibrating throughout
                          eternity to be broadcast to God-tuned souls!"

                          Sri Yukteswar to his diciple Sri Yogananda (premavatar)
                          • exactly my point - "finally we shall merge as ONE in the Cosmic beloved."

                            but the souls don't merge until they 1.) get clearance to do so and 2.) are divine souls who choose to merge with the Mother Divine (Cosmic Beloved) rather than incarnating any more in this world.

                            in other words, the souls are still recognizable as unique souls -- although made up of the cosmic energy. Jesus is still Jesus -- Babaji is still Babaji. though they are in union with god, they are still individuated parts of the whole god energy. Buddha, too. Mohammed, too. each one has a slightly different flavor and dharmic mission for the betterment of this planet.

                            it's true that fundamentally we're all the cosmic energy without differentiation -- BUT we live in a world of forms, shapes, identities and dharmas. if we're in this creation, then duality is also part of the reality we have to contend with. sure, it's an illusion -- but it's the illusion we can simultaneously inhabit AND transcend.

                            why did people go to study with Yogananda rather than some other master, if all masters are identical? do you see what I'm getting at? Yogananda's characteristics were one way. another master's were a different way. yet a third master will have a DIFFERENT set of behaviors and qualities. yet all three masters may be avataras, god -realized souls who are helping the world achieve yoga, union with god.

                            so, sure, it's fun to say, "we're all one and no one is at all different from anyone else" but it isn't very functional.

                            FINALLY we shall merge as one. (in other words, "right now, we are NOT appearing to be One because we have work to do.")

                            Alx
                            • People (including myself) sometimes are so entertained discussing about different masters and avatars, that they forget what is really behind them. Unless we become one with him (god) we cannot understand the whole and complex existence.

                              There is a CD from Paramahansa Yogananda named “Be a Smile Millionaire “one of the greatest revelations ever made in the world. And explain exactly and clearly that point. One of the greatest treasures for the humanity as all the others CD recorded in the voice of that great guru.

                              If we see god in a stone it may led us to the infinity, but if we can’t see him in everything, even the greatest master won’t help.

                              Love is what gives impulse to the intuitive knowledge to reach the goal.

                              That’s what Paramahansa Nithyananda calls “psychological revolution”.

                              Without that “psychological revolution” all words will become theory of human limited knowledge. But after that the real seek starts.

                              As another great master said:

                              Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

                              Then there will be no need for any discussion because you will just BE forever Eternal Bliss.

                              Have fun in god :)
                            • Alx ... your lovely explanation goes deep inside the point

                              Namaste
                              • hi, Daniel --

                                your point is important, about recognizing that all avataras and saints are emanations of the divine energy that lies behind this whole creation.

                                but KNOWING that isn't enough.

                                experiencing it is more important -- and we need the individual saints, and avataras, and divine teachings, to help us reach that place in a genuine, not an imaginary way.

                                if you want to know your internal god nature, and inter-connectedness with all things and beings, the best way to get there is to choose a master and follow their teachings without fail.

                                the individual representative of god leads us BACK to the infinite Silence that is god.

                                but this is Kali Yuga, the most dense, material time in the earth's time cycles. we need the material guru, the living presence, the easily-identifiable representative of god in our lives.

                                if you only try to experience the formless god -- it is much harder and takes a LOT more time (lifetimes, even) to achieve this kind of enlightenment and yoga (union with god) through that formlessness.

                                we are human beings in forms. we need to see the divine IN the forms -- like a statue, a blade of grass, a cat, a person, an avatara.

                                through form, we access the formless.

                                spiritual evolution happens more quickly through a physicalized guru form -- he or she is a bridge to the formless, because a physicalized guru is living IN the world of forms while at the same time, is BEYOND the forms and only living in the formless.

                                that is what yoga means -- the union of the material with the divine. the union of form with formless. the union of individual consciousness with the unlimited consciousness that is god.

                                it's both. you have to go through one to access the other.

                                Alx



                                • It is a blessing to ready those words from you.

                                  Thank you again Alx

                                  :)
                                  • It is a blessing to read those words from you.

                                    Thank you again Alx

                                    :)
                                    • I agree with what you write, Alx, about coming to the formless through form.

                                      Sri Ramakrishna discussed these kinds of things. And many other teachers as well, that going to God through Bhakti, worship of God as a conscious infinitely loving Being is the quickest way to God.

                                      From my reading of things, there is and has only ever been one path. Not that there aren't differences between Bhakti Yoga, Jnana Yoga, etc. etc. etc., but that it is, in some sense, "all one thing."

                                      So, I think that the Bhakti path laid down by say, Sri Krishna or Sri Chaitanya is not significantly different than the Bhakti path that a modern Yogi would lay down. Or, say, I don't think that the Raja Yoga path, which includes kundalini meditations, is going to be any significantly now versus the Raja Yoga path laid down by some ancient rishi.

                                      To me, seeing Yogananda is seeing God. Seeing Sri Yukteswar is seeing God. And, I did accept a Guru, from India,...from a different lineage and I do view him in the same regard.

                                      So, you get those kinds of direct benefits, from personally being around the deeply loving presence of a saint. Even with great men, like Abraham Lincoln, it was said that however great he might have been from afar, it was never the same as those who had direct contact with him, saw the light and delight play in his eyes and feel the heart of the man. After Frederick Douglass directly met with him, he said something like, he had never met a man anywhere, ever, with a purer heart.

                                      And all real Gurus basically teach the same thing...be as moral as you possible can, pray and meditate as best you can, do all the good you possibly can. No real teacher significantly deviates from these kinds of tenets.

                                      So, people can know. If some teacher is telling you to break the law, do something unethical or immoral or bathe in chocolate syrup and dance the funky chicken....you go have that guy arrested and find a new teacher. If the teacher does not do every single thing that he asks his students to do...then you know something is up. The real teachers are not only speaking with authority and power, but being extremely humble, before everyone. So, for example, Gandhi cleaned the latrines of his own ashram...I think it was Swami Gambhirananda who was quite stern with his students, but one night a disciple caught him feeding bread crumbs to little mice, out of his own hand. Bama found a dog stealing a piece of bread from his table and had such love for the innocent creature, that he ran after him so that he could butter the bread!

                                      The saintly nature of the real teachers comes out...and the devious bs of the charlatans also eventually shows.

                                      There is a great Indian parable. This servant is told by his master (secular master, not spiritual master) to deliver some goods. He is on the way, but his journey is blocked by a stream that has become a raging river. He returns to his master. The master is arrogant, cold-hearted and dismissive, and not a little bit sadistically cruel. As a joke, he tells the servant to just go to the river and chant the name of "Rama" three times and the waters will calm down. The servant goes to the river, chants Rama, the stream calms down and he crosses the river and delivers the goods. He comes back to the master and the master is amazed. So, the master goes down to the stream, which is now raging again, chants Rama three times, tries to cross the river and promptly drowns.

                                      So, if one is sincere, one can come to God even through a false teacher. And God will not allow any powerfully sincere disciple to stay very long with a false teacher. So, it is our own most sincere spiritual aspiration that is our best protection against false teachers (and every other manifestation of evil).

                                      God is in charge here, not men, not evil....if we seek Him with all manner of devotion and sincerity, we are perfectly protected.

                                      • Constructive doubt is intelligent questioning, and fair, impartial examination. Those who cultivate this attitude never prejudge an idea. Nor do they accept as valid the unsubstantiated opinions of others. They keep an open mind, and base their conclusions on objective tests.
                                        They seek above all to verify those conclusions BY THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE.
                                        This is the proper approach to truth. [Paramahansa Yogananda]
                                        • hi, all -- Jon -- it's a beautiful point about discerning between real and false masters. I do think that many people have questionable karma and so are attracted to not-great masters. in the long term of god's plan for them, it's fine. but it's a real test and a real heartbreak and sometimes creates an incredible fear and illusion of suspicion in them that they can't trust a real master when he's standing right in front of them. I've seen this a lot. with god's grace, my husband and I have done healings for people who are suffering that kind of extreme heartbreak -- having been at the mercy of a false master and so not trusting the divine any more.

                                          you have to ask yourself, in those circumstances, what is that person's karma, to be subject to such an illusion from the Mother? it is staggering. and really common.

                                          in terms of a master asking you to do unethical things or wear bbq sauce or dance the funky chicken -- that's not necessarily a false master at all -- depends on the circumstances. the divine laws don't always overlap well with the human belief systems about what constitutes 'ethical', 'fair', 'trustworthy' or anything else.

                                          Babaji told a guy to jump off a cliff (to his death), in effect. I think a normal person would consider that highly unethical. *grinning* but it was necessary -- do you see my point? I'm sure you know the story from Autobiography of a Yogi.

                                          with a real sadguru (and they are rare), EVERYTHING is on the table. especially our belief systems about what's right or wrong in this world.

                                          it takes a master to really understand a master. until then, we do our best and go on faith and trus